叛逃者承認向美國謊稱伊拉克擁有大規模殺傷性武器
Exclusive'I lied about WMD to topple Saddam'
“我承認以WMD之謊言顛覆薩達姆政權”
Defector admits to WMD lies that triggered Iraq war
叛逃者承認向美國謊稱伊拉克擁有大規模殺傷性武器(WMD),以觸發伊拉克戰爭
• Man codenamed Curveball 'invented' tales of bioweapons
• Iraqi told lies to try to bring down Saddam Hussein regime
• Fabrications used by US as justification for invasion
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The defector who convinced the White House that Iraq had a secret biological weapons programme has admitted for the first time that he lied about his story, then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war.
Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, codenamed Curveball by German and American intelligence officials who dealt with his claims, has told the Guardian that he fabricated tales of mobile bioweapons trucks and clandestine factories in an attempt to bring down the Saddam Hussein regime, from which he had fled in 1995.
"Maybe I was right, maybe I was not right," he said. "They gave me this chance. I had the chance to fabricate something to topple the regime. I and my sons are proud of that and we are proud that we were the reason to give Iraq the margin of democracy."
The admission comes just after the eighth anniversary of Colin Powell's speech to the United Nations in which the then-US secretary of state relied heavily on lies that Janabi had told the German secret service, the BND. It also follows the release of former defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld's memoirs, in which he admitted Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction programme.
The careers of both men were seriously damaged by their use of Janabi's claims, which he now says could have been – and were – discredited well before Powell's landmark speech to the UN on 5 February 2003.
The former CIA chief in Europe Tyler Drumheller describes Janabi's admission as "fascinating", and said the emergence of the truth "makes me feel better". "I think there are still a number of people who still thought there was something in that. Even now," said Drumheller.
In the only other at length interview Janabi has given he denied all knowledge of his supposed role in helping the US build a case for invading Saddam's Iraq.
In a series of meetings with the Guardian in Germany where he has been granted asylum, he said he had told a German official, who he identified as Dr Paul, about mobile bioweapons trucks throughout 2000. He said the BND had identified him as a Baghdad-trained chemical engineer and approached him shortly after 13 March of that year, looking for inside information about Saddam's Iraq.
"I had a problem with the Saddam regime," he said. "I wanted to get rid of him and now I had this chance."
He portrays the BND as gullible and so eager to tease details from him that they gave him a Perry's Chemical Engineering Handbook to help communicate. He still has the book in his small, rented flat in Karlsruhe, south-west Germany.
"They were asking me about pumps for filtration, how to make detergent after the reaction," he said. "Any engineer who studied in this field can explain or answer any question they asked."
Janabi claimed he was first exposed as a liar as early as mid-2000, when the BND travelled to a Gulf city, believed to be Dubai, to speak with his former boss at the Military Industries Commission in Iraq, Dr Bassil Latif.
The Guardian has learned separately that British intelligence officials were at that meeting, investigating a claim made by Janabi that Latif's son, who was studying in Britain, was procuring weapons for Saddam.
That claim was proven false, and Latif strongly denied Janabi's claim of mobile bioweapons trucks and another allegation that 12 people had died during an accident at a secret bioweapons facility in south-east Baghdad.
The German officials returned to confront him with Latif's version. "He says, 'There are no trucks,' and I say, 'OK, when there no trucks then ,'" Janabi recalled.
He said the BND did not contact him again until the end of May 2002. But he said it soon became clear that he was still being taken seriously.
He claimed the officials gave him an incentive to speak by implying that his then pregnant Moroccan-born wife may not be able to travel from Spain to join him in Germany if he did not co-operate with them. "He says, you work with us or your wife and child go to Morocco."
The meetings continued throughout 2002 and it became apparent to Janabi that a case for war was being constructed. He said he was not asked again about the bioweapons trucks until a month before Powell's speech.
After the speech, Janabi said he called his handler at the BND and accused the secret service of breaking an agreement that they would not share anything he had told them with another country. He said he was told not to speak and placed in confinement for around 90 days.
With the US now leaving Iraq, Janabi said he was comfortable with what he did, despite the chaos of the past eight years and the civilian death toll in Iraq, which stands at more than 100,000.
"I tell you something when I hear anybody – not just in Iraq but in any war – killed, I am very sad. But give me another solution. Can you give me another solution?
"Believe me, there was no other way to bring about freedom to Iraq. There were no other possibilities."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/15/defector-admits-wmd-lies-iraq-war
更新:大公報新聞
德國傳媒爆料: 揭美國攻打伊拉克是騙局
【本報訊】據中新社柏林17日消息:德國傳媒日前爆料稱,美國攻打伊拉克是緣於德國一名申請政治難民身份者的謊話,美國卻以此作為興兵理由。
2003年伊拉克戰爭爆發之前,當時的美國國務卿鮑威爾在聯合國安理會上,為這場戰爭做合理性解釋時説,美國得到了可靠情報,伊拉克存在大規模殺傷性生化武器,「情報來源是目擊者,他是一名伊拉克化學工程師,所以我們獲得的是關於生化武器的第一手資料」。
現在,這位當年提供情報的伊拉克工程師終於在德國浮出水面。據德國電視一台調查,他代號「彎球」,目前生活在德國南部城市卡斯魯厄,15年前來到德國。當年他向德國申請政治庇護時,提供資料説自己是化學工程師,並謊稱了解伊拉克大規模殺傷性生化武器的秘密。聯邦情報局將此人的供述上報政府,德國政府又將情報提供給了美國。然而美軍佔領巴格達之後,事情立刻變得十分清楚,大規模殺傷性生化武器在伊拉克根本不存在。所謂來自德國的「第一手情報」,只不過是個騙局。
http://www.takungpao.com/news/world/2011-02-19/562957.html
這就是伊拉克大規模殺傷性武器的真相?
本帖最後由 何偉濤 於 2011-2-16 15:29 編輯
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我終於明白點解會有人為汪精衛翻案! 亦明白為何德國03年堅拒出兵, 因為假情報就是德國人自己放出去的
何偉濤 發表於 2011-2-16 15:27 static/image/common/back.gif
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我終於明白點解會有人為汪精衛翻案!
點解?願聞其詳。 孤寂如雲 發表於 2011-2-16 15:28 static/image/common/back.gif
點解?願聞其詳。
因為有人為推翻現政權要同外國入侵者合作! 何偉濤 發表於 2011-2-16 15:30 static/image/common/back.gif
因為有人為推翻現政權要同外國入侵者合作!謝謝解釋。 有更新。
我覺得美國陷入了一個二元矛盾:明知伊拉克沒有WMD,才會大舉出兵;明知伊朗、朝鮮有WMD,卻遲遲不敢動手。
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